Comments on: Some odd characters are lining up to challenge Rep. Perriello. http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2009/08/bizarre-5cd-challengers/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:04:20 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: NotAndySere http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2009/08/bizarre-5cd-challengers/#comment-23801 NotAndySere Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:09:06 +0000 http://waldo.jaquith.org/?p=7061#comment-23801 VA will not get a new house seat after 2010. Redistricting depends on the outcome of this fall's election. All the more reason we need to elect Deeds as Governor and get more Democrats in the House of Delegates like Neff. VA will not get a new house seat after 2010. Redistricting depends on the outcome of this fall’s election. All the more reason we need to elect Deeds as Governor and get more Democrats in the House of Delegates like Neff.

]]> By: robert legge http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2009/08/bizarre-5cd-challengers/#comment-23799 robert legge Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:22:24 +0000 http://waldo.jaquith.org/?p=7061#comment-23799 This may be somewhat off topic but is VA going to get a new house seat after 2010 reapportionment? Even if not will this seat look different assuming that population density in VA has changed in the previous decade. As I understand it, reapportionment doesn't take place until 2012 election. Reapportionment will once again not be good for Democrats. People are moving from midwest and northeast to South and West. This may be somewhat off topic but is VA going to get a new house seat after 2010 reapportionment? Even if not will this seat look different assuming that population density in VA has changed in the previous decade. As I understand it, reapportionment doesn’t take place until 2012 election. Reapportionment will once again not be good for Democrats. People are moving from midwest and northeast to South and West.

]]> By: Waldo Jaquith http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2009/08/bizarre-5cd-challengers/#comment-23796 Waldo Jaquith Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:54:47 +0000 http://waldo.jaquith.org/?p=7061#comment-23796 <blockquote>The fine senator from Pittsylvania County is ROBERT, not BOB . . .</blockquote> You're right, of course—I've fixed that. For some reason, I routinely want him to be named "Bob." When I launched Richmond Sunlight, that was his name there, so certain was I that he went by that nickname. You'd think I'd learn by now.

The fine senator from Pittsylvania County is ROBERT, not BOB . . .

You’re right, of course—I’ve fixed that. For some reason, I routinely want him to be named “Bob.” When I launched Richmond Sunlight, that was his name there, so certain was I that he went by that nickname. You’d think I’d learn by now.

]]> By: 5th D. chick http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2009/08/bizarre-5cd-challengers/#comment-23794 5th D. chick Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:35:45 +0000 http://waldo.jaquith.org/?p=7061#comment-23794 The fine senator from Pittsylvania County is ROBERT, not BOB . . . The fine senator from Pittsylvania County is ROBERT, not BOB . . .

]]> By: Waldo Jaquith http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2009/08/bizarre-5cd-challengers/#comment-23784 Waldo Jaquith Mon, 17 Aug 2009 02:06:49 +0000 http://waldo.jaquith.org/?p=7061#comment-23784 (The Sorensen Institute is housed there, where my wife used to work, and I used to do some consulting for a couple of the organizations in that building, too, so I'm very familiar with it.) (The Sorensen Institute is housed there, where my wife used to work, and I used to do some consulting for a couple of the organizations in that building, too, so I’m very familiar with it.)

]]> By: Waldo Jaquith http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2009/08/bizarre-5cd-challengers/#comment-23783 Waldo Jaquith Mon, 17 Aug 2009 02:06:23 +0000 http://waldo.jaquith.org/?p=7061#comment-23783 UVA is using the building for precisely the same thing that they were using it before—now they're just not paying rent. The Center for Politics moved out, but that's unrelated to the transaction. That's just because Sabato donated the money to buy a building across the street to house them. UVA is using the building for precisely the same thing that they were using it before—now they’re just not paying rent. The Center for Politics moved out, but that’s unrelated to the transaction. That’s just because Sabato donated the money to buy a building across the street to house them.

]]> By: FishyConnections http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2009/08/bizarre-5cd-challengers/#comment-23782 FishyConnections Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:36:46 +0000 http://waldo.jaquith.org/?p=7061#comment-23782 Waldo, interesting find. What is UVA using the building for now? It's interesting that the Center was involved, given the scandal around Goode and Sabato, and Faulk's potential run. Waldo, interesting find. What is UVA using the building for now? It’s interesting that the Center was involved, given the scandal around Goode and Sabato, and Faulk’s potential run.

]]> By: Mark Brooks http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2009/08/bizarre-5cd-challengers/#comment-23781 Mark Brooks Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:33:58 +0000 http://waldo.jaquith.org/?p=7061#comment-23781 The $0 sale is listed as invalid, but it could meant it was a tax-free transfer, since it was between two entities who were the same owner. $1.1m is a great paycheck for doing essentially nothing but signing papers. The $0 sale is listed as invalid, but it could meant it was a tax-free transfer, since it was between two entities who were the same owner.

$1.1m is a great paycheck for doing essentially nothing but signing papers.

]]> By: Waldo Jaquith http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2009/08/bizarre-5cd-challengers/#comment-23779 Waldo Jaquith Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:10:57 +0000 http://waldo.jaquith.org/?p=7061#comment-23779 <blockquote>So Verga bought the building from the Center of Politics for $4.8 million and turned around and sold it back to UVA for . . . ? What? Did he make money?</blockquote> Unfortunately, there's no way to link to the specific page on <a href="http://gisweb.albemarle.org/" rel="nofollow">Albemarle's County's GIS page</a>, but here's the transfer history: <blockquote> Previous Owner O & G ENTERPRISE LLC & GERALDINE ENTERPRISE Owner RECTOR & VISTORS OF THE Sale Date 10/18/2007 Sale Price $5,900,000 Deed Book/Page 3504/292 Validity of Sale Valid Sale Previous Owner VERGA, LAURENCE TR OF THE PAUL A & Owner O & G ENTERPRISE LLC & GERALDINE ENTERPRISE Sale Date 06/22/2005 Sale Price $0 Deed Book/Page 3006/206 Validity of Sale Invalid Sale Previous Owner COUNTY WEST LIMITED PARTNERSHIP Owner VERGA, LAURENCE TR OF THE PAUL A & Sale Date 12/03/2004 Sale Price $4,823,500 Deed Book/Page 2883/382 Validity of Sale Valid Sale Previous Owner N/A Owner COUNTY WEST LIMITED PARTNERSHIP Sale Date 04/27/1984 Sale Price $135,000 Deed Book/Page 796/452 Validity of Sale Valid Sale</blockquote> So he actually bought it in December 2004, transferred it to a corporation (perhaps he owns that corporation, since the price listed is $0) six months later, who in turn sold it to UVA two years later. He acquired it for $4.8M, UVA bought it for $5.9M. I'm just speculating, but I think it's totally possible that this was coordinated with UVA. <a href="/2009/01/30/econo-lodge-pseudonym/" rel="nofollow">The university bought a key property in $6M with a shell corporation</a>, presumably to avoid the seller from realizing that he was in a transaction with a party prepared to spend a whole lot more money for that land. He may have just brought it as a broker on behalf of the university.

So Verga bought the building from the Center of Politics for $4.8 million and turned around and sold it back to UVA for . . . ? What? Did he make money?

Unfortunately, there’s no way to link to the specific page on Albemarle’s County’s GIS page, but here’s the transfer history:

Previous Owner O & G ENTERPRISE LLC & GERALDINE ENTERPRISE
Owner RECTOR & VISTORS OF THE
Sale Date 10/18/2007
Sale Price $5,900,000
Deed Book/Page 3504/292
Validity of Sale Valid Sale

Previous Owner VERGA, LAURENCE TR OF THE PAUL A &
Owner O & G ENTERPRISE LLC & GERALDINE ENTERPRISE
Sale Date 06/22/2005
Sale Price $0
Deed Book/Page 3006/206
Validity of Sale Invalid Sale

Previous Owner COUNTY WEST LIMITED PARTNERSHIP
Owner VERGA, LAURENCE TR OF THE PAUL A &
Sale Date 12/03/2004
Sale Price $4,823,500
Deed Book/Page 2883/382
Validity of Sale Valid Sale

Previous Owner N/A
Owner COUNTY WEST LIMITED PARTNERSHIP
Sale Date 04/27/1984
Sale Price $135,000
Deed Book/Page 796/452
Validity of Sale Valid Sale

So he actually bought it in December 2004, transferred it to a corporation (perhaps he owns that corporation, since the price listed is $0) six months later, who in turn sold it to UVA two years later. He acquired it for $4.8M, UVA bought it for $5.9M.

I’m just speculating, but I think it’s totally possible that this was coordinated with UVA. The university bought a key property in $6M with a shell corporation, presumably to avoid the seller from realizing that he was in a transaction with a party prepared to spend a whole lot more money for that land. He may have just brought it as a broker on behalf of the university.

]]> By: Mark Brooks http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2009/08/bizarre-5cd-challengers/#comment-23778 Mark Brooks Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:33:49 +0000 http://waldo.jaquith.org/?p=7061#comment-23778 The same guy who threw a party for Virgil is now accepting "Community Goodwill" money from Watkins Abbitt. The same guy who threw a party for Virgil is now accepting “Community Goodwill” money from Watkins Abbitt.

]]> By: FishyConnections http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2009/08/bizarre-5cd-challengers/#comment-23777 FishyConnections Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:38:27 +0000 http://waldo.jaquith.org/?p=7061#comment-23777 So Verga bought the building from the Center of Politics for $4.8 million and turned around and sold it back to UVA for . . . ? What? Did he make money? In doing so, was he helping the Center for Politics make extra cash? Can Sabato do anything to get money other than sweetheart deals? So Verga bought the building from the Center of Politics for $4.8 million and turned around and sold it back to UVA for . . . ? What? Did he make money? In doing so, was he helping the Center for Politics make extra cash? Can Sabato do anything to get money other than sweetheart deals?

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