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	<title>Comments on: Wilder&#8217;s showdown with the school board.</title>
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		<title>By: Kaveh</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2007/09/wilder-school-board/#comment-18603</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaveh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I didn&#039;t really mean to direct that quote at Alison.  At least, not really.  :-)

&#039;Tis a noble goal, and one that I applaud Alison for wholeheartedly.  Really.  Like Waldo, I may not agree with all aspects, but seeking respect and dignity for the mentally ill can never be wrong.

And the skit from Life of Brian (a Monty Python movie).

&quot;I would add, if nobody struggles against the current reality, the current reality is all we got.&quot; -- very well put</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I didn&#8217;t really mean to direct that quote at Alison.  At least, not really.  :-)</p>
<p>&#8216;Tis a noble goal, and one that I applaud Alison for wholeheartedly.  Really.  Like Waldo, I may not agree with all aspects, but seeking respect and dignity for the mentally ill can never be wrong.</p>
<p>And the skit from Life of Brian (a Monty Python movie).</p>
<p>&#8220;I would add, if nobody struggles against the current reality, the current reality is all we got.&#8221; &#8212; very well put</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Hymes</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2007/09/wilder-school-board/#comment-18602</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison Hymes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Waldo. Language changes? Oh my goodness, somebody should have told my father that..... 

hint: first name Dell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Waldo. Language changes? Oh my goodness, somebody should have told my father that&#8230;.. </p>
<p>hint: first name Dell.</p>
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		<title>By: Waldo Jaquith</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2007/09/wilder-school-board/#comment-18601</link>
		<dc:creator>Waldo Jaquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Okay, I don’t get the bizarre thing. Is there somewhere I can look it up?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The word &quot;bizarre&quot; is from the Basque &quot;bizar,&quot; meaning &quot;beard.&quot; Strictly speaking, nobody should be called &quot;bizarre&quot; unless they have a beard. But, of course, language changes. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Okay, I don’t get the bizarre thing. Is there somewhere I can look it up?</p></blockquote>
<p>The word &#8220;bizarre&#8221; is from the Basque &#8220;bizar,&#8221; meaning &#8220;beard.&#8221; Strictly speaking, nobody should be called &#8220;bizarre&#8221; unless they have a beard. But, of course, language changes. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Hymes</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2007/09/wilder-school-board/#comment-18600</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison Hymes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I don&#039;t get the bizarre thing. Is there somewhere I can look it up?  And thanks Waldo, we can agree to disagree.  I like you too. But I don&#039;t know where that skit is from.  I am so old.  And I don&#039;t mind saying so. 

I would add, if nobody struggles against the current reality, the current reality is all we got. Everybody happy with that? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I don&#8217;t get the bizarre thing. Is there somewhere I can look it up?  And thanks Waldo, we can agree to disagree.  I like you too. But I don&#8217;t know where that skit is from.  I am so old.  And I don&#8217;t mind saying so. </p>
<p>I would add, if nobody struggles against the current reality, the current reality is all we got. Everybody happy with that? :)</p>
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		<title>By: Waldo Jaquith</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2007/09/wilder-school-board/#comment-18594</link>
		<dc:creator>Waldo Jaquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er, well, I left that bit off for a reason. :) I like Alison, and I appreciate her viewpoint, I just don&#039;t happen to share it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, well, I left that bit off for a reason. :) I like Alison, and I appreciate her viewpoint, I just don&#8217;t happen to share it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaveh</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2007/09/wilder-school-board/#comment-18587</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaveh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REG: What&#039;s the point of fighting for his right to have babies, when he can&#039;t have babies?
FRANCIS: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.
REG: It&#039;s symbolic of his struggle against reality. 

And Waldo wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REG: What&#8217;s the point of fighting for his right to have babies, when he can&#8217;t have babies?<br />
FRANCIS: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.<br />
REG: It&#8217;s symbolic of his struggle against reality. </p>
<p>And Waldo wins.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Brooks</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2007/09/wilder-school-board/#comment-18586</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biscuits, meet the kittens in the oven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biscuits, meet the kittens in the oven.</p>
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		<title>By: Waldo Jaquith</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2007/09/wilder-school-board/#comment-18585</link>
		<dc:creator>Waldo Jaquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STAN: I want to be a woman. From now on, I want you all to call me &#039;Loretta&#039;.
REG: What?!
LORETTA: It&#039;s my right as a man.
JUDITH: Well, why do you want to be Loretta, Stan?
LORETTA: I want to have babies.
REG: You want to have babies?!
LORETTA: It&#039;s every man&#039;s right to have babies if he wants them.
REG: But... you can&#039;t have babies.
LORETTA: Don&#039;t you oppress me.
REG: I&#039;m not oppressing you, Stan. You haven&#039;t got a womb! Where&#039;s the foetus going to gestate?! You going to keep it in a box?!
LORETTA: [crying]
JUDITH: Here! I-- I&#039;ve got an idea. Suppose you agree that he can&#039;t actually have babies, not having a womb, which is nobody&#039;s fault, not even the Romans&#039;, but that he can have the right to have babies.
FRANCIS: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother. Sister. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STAN: I want to be a woman. From now on, I want you all to call me &#8216;Loretta&#8217;.<br />
REG: What?!<br />
LORETTA: It&#8217;s my right as a man.<br />
JUDITH: Well, why do you want to be Loretta, Stan?<br />
LORETTA: I want to have babies.<br />
REG: You want to have babies?!<br />
LORETTA: It&#8217;s every man&#8217;s right to have babies if he wants them.<br />
REG: But&#8230; you can&#8217;t have babies.<br />
LORETTA: Don&#8217;t you oppress me.<br />
REG: I&#8217;m not oppressing you, Stan. You haven&#8217;t got a womb! Where&#8217;s the foetus going to gestate?! You going to keep it in a box?!<br />
LORETTA: [crying]<br />
JUDITH: Here! I&#8211; I&#8217;ve got an idea. Suppose you agree that he can&#8217;t actually have babies, not having a womb, which is nobody&#8217;s fault, not even the Romans&#8217;, but that he can have the right to have babies.<br />
FRANCIS: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother. Sister. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaveh</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2007/09/wilder-school-board/#comment-18583</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaveh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alison,

You are absolutely right--most or the time, people with mental illness are not acting badly nor stupidly.  The term lunatic refers to people who act badly or stupidly, a manifestation of perceived mental illness, regardless of whether such mental illness actually exists.  It is not, not has it ever been, a term exclusively used to accurately describe someone with a diagnosed mental condition.  You want to reclaim technical terms used to describe mental illness or disability, like moron or cretin, fine.  I&#039;d agree that insane should not be thrown about casually.  But lunatic, wacko, and nutjob?  The majority of &quot;psychiatric sufferers&quot; I know or have worked with want nothing to do with those labels.  

And again, please refrain from using the term bizarre to describe behavior that does not conform to logic or normative standard.  My bearded friends want to reclaim that word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alison,</p>
<p>You are absolutely right&#8211;most or the time, people with mental illness are not acting badly nor stupidly.  The term lunatic refers to people who act badly or stupidly, a manifestation of perceived mental illness, regardless of whether such mental illness actually exists.  It is not, not has it ever been, a term exclusively used to accurately describe someone with a diagnosed mental condition.  You want to reclaim technical terms used to describe mental illness or disability, like moron or cretin, fine.  I&#8217;d agree that insane should not be thrown about casually.  But lunatic, wacko, and nutjob?  The majority of &#8220;psychiatric sufferers&#8221; I know or have worked with want nothing to do with those labels.  </p>
<p>And again, please refrain from using the term bizarre to describe behavior that does not conform to logic or normative standard.  My bearded friends want to reclaim that word.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Hymes</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2007/09/wilder-school-board/#comment-18581</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison Hymes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack, that&#039;s my point exactly.  This is why I don&#039;t mind words like crazy or lunacy being used to describe actual mental illness but do mind them being used to describe bad behavior or stupidity, because most of the time, most people with mental illness are not acting badly nor bizarrely nor stupidly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack, that&#8217;s my point exactly.  This is why I don&#8217;t mind words like crazy or lunacy being used to describe actual mental illness but do mind them being used to describe bad behavior or stupidity, because most of the time, most people with mental illness are not acting badly nor bizarrely nor stupidly.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2007/09/wilder-school-board/#comment-18576</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Allison, but whatever word you decide to use to refer to crazy people will quickly take on a negative, insulting cast. Like we used to call retarded people &#039;retarded&#039; but then &#039;retarded&#039; made people sound retarded so everyone switched to saying things like &#039;special.&#039; 

&#039;Stevie is a very special young man.&#039; 

So now &#039;special&#039; means &#039;retarded&#039; and if I were to suggest that someone was very &#039;special&#039; with the right tone in my voice it would be just the same thing as calling them &#039;retarded.&#039;  You can&#039;t win. Being crazy or retarded or mentally ill in some way that involves acting out in some dramatic way will always be looked down upon.

Anyhoo, Doug Wilder might very well be getting a little bit special as he gets older. This is not rational behavior. Whether these actions result from simple bad judgment or from a bona fide medical condition of specialness, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s out of line for Richmond to start looking into what would be involved in impeaching a mayor.  

I&#039;ve been a supporter of Wilder in the past and I thought it was really great when he decided to run for mayor. Frankly, the whole thing has turned out to be an embarrassment and it&#039;s a shame that he&#039;s ruining his legacy like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Allison, but whatever word you decide to use to refer to crazy people will quickly take on a negative, insulting cast. Like we used to call retarded people &#8216;retarded&#8217; but then &#8216;retarded&#8217; made people sound retarded so everyone switched to saying things like &#8217;special.&#8217; </p>
<p>&#8216;Stevie is a very special young man.&#8217; </p>
<p>So now &#8217;special&#8217; means &#8216;retarded&#8217; and if I were to suggest that someone was very &#8217;special&#8217; with the right tone in my voice it would be just the same thing as calling them &#8216;retarded.&#8217;  You can&#8217;t win. Being crazy or retarded or mentally ill in some way that involves acting out in some dramatic way will always be looked down upon.</p>
<p>Anyhoo, Doug Wilder might very well be getting a little bit special as he gets older. This is not rational behavior. Whether these actions result from simple bad judgment or from a bona fide medical condition of specialness, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s out of line for Richmond to start looking into what would be involved in impeaching a mayor.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a supporter of Wilder in the past and I thought it was really great when he decided to run for mayor. Frankly, the whole thing has turned out to be an embarrassment and it&#8217;s a shame that he&#8217;s ruining his legacy like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Hymes</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2007/09/wilder-school-board/#comment-18573</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison Hymes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 04:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaveh, believe what you want to believe. Do you also have opinions about other minority groups of which you are not a member and tell members of those groups they are wrong about their own group?  Or do you save that for my minority group?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaveh, believe what you want to believe. Do you also have opinions about other minority groups of which you are not a member and tell members of those groups they are wrong about their own group?  Or do you save that for my minority group?</p>
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		<title>By: David Sewell</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2007/09/wilder-school-board/#comment-18570</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sewell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &lt;i&gt;Richmond Times&lt;/i&gt; online has probably more than any non-Richmonder will ever want to know about all this:

http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/home.html

The &quot;Reader Reaction&quot; link shows that a lot of folk side with Wilder in his conflict with the school system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <i>Richmond Times</i> online has probably more than any non-Richmonder will ever want to know about all this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/home.html">http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/home.html</a></p>
<p>The &#8220;Reader Reaction&#8221; link shows that a lot of folk side with Wilder in his conflict with the school system.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaveh</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2007/09/wilder-school-board/#comment-18568</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaveh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back on topic--why did Wilder want them out of city hall?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back on topic&#8211;why did Wilder want them out of city hall?</p>
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		<title>By: Kaveh</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2007/09/wilder-school-board/#comment-18567</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaveh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I refuse to believe that there has been any effort by even the smallest subset of the mentally ill community to reclaim the term lunatic.  Best of luck in your quest to reappropriate the English language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I refuse to believe that there has been any effort by even the smallest subset of the mentally ill community to reclaim the term lunatic.  Best of luck in your quest to reappropriate the English language.</p>
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