Elizabeth Hasselbeck is to The View as Judge Smails is to this place, I think.

i.e., if Elizabeth wasn’t present, the rest of the ladies wouldn’t have anything to talk about.

Way to keep ‘em chatting, Judge. :)

You’re missing the bigger issue by getting off into the weeds there and bashing the liberal fringe. We need to stop being divided and work together in a bipartisan way against the common enemy. That enemy being ‘The View.’

That said, JS, your 7:24 comment is pretty broad-stroke like – I know very few Democrats who believe any of that. If any. Really — c’mon.

More importantly, though, liberals in general (at least the ones I know and talk to) do NOT hold allegiance to “appeasing our enemies” — quite the opposite. In calling our administration’s policies into question many feel they are actually holding allegiance to the Constitution, our nation’s foundation and history, and by definition are strengthening OUR country. We cannot simply defend the US administration because it is the “US” in front of the “administration” – we must hold it accountable to the same standards we say we hold everyone else to.

I do not think liberals find fault with their country (and you at the least seem to admit that), but with the way our country is being used to further a faulty and harmful vision – a vision that is harmful to our country. Many of us who dispute the administration’s account of the world feel that we are actually defending our country. Particularly it’s moral and ethical compass and legitimacy. And it’s history and philosophy.

And I do not think that MoveOn represents the Democratic Party at all – they represent MoveOn only.

Really though, I feel like my I.Q. dropped 75 points just from having watched that clip. It’s just more daytime tripe that lets bored housewives feel like they’ve spent some time listening to engaging intellectual conversation.

However, to me anyway, it often seems my Democratic friends are too willing to find fault with their own country (or at least their own country’s government) rather than than cast the blame elsewhere where it legitimately belongs.

For example, take last week’s Gen. Petreaus report to Congress. Democrats in Congress seemed disappointed that the US appears to be making progress in Anbar, etc. What’s up with that? MoveOn might not represent the whole of the Dem Party, but they were definitely pissed at Patraeus at took out an ad in the NYT calling him a traitor (which their friends in the media gave them for half-price, but that’s another argument altogether).

Just seems like the left’s allegiance is more to appeasing our enemies and strengthening the wretched UN (where Cuba, Sudan, etc run the Human Rights Council) than it is to Uncle Sam.

I fail to see the value of this television show.