(Tom, do you or do you not believe that Rep. Ellison is a terrorist?)

Ellison for $400, please, Pat.

I don’t know Waldo, I thought the discussion was on Goodes objection to the quran being used to swear in a Farrakan Muslim extremist into Congress?

One more time, real prominent so you don’t miss it:

Tom, do you or do you not believe that Rep. Ellison is a terrorist?

My point was when it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, and it wants to kill all, white people, Jews, Christains, etc. is it a chicken?

Maybe we should all just roll over and play dead? Why object to anything that threatens what we cherish and believe?

Don’t we have the right to do that anymore without being lynched?

And go ask L F Payne how many minorities live in his neighborhood of Stoney Creek in Nellysford, Nelson Co. VA. HAHAHAHA. What a joke ot is that any of the UVA or VA Tech crowd would raise a stink about bigots or racist!

Please, Please, get out more and get a hearing aid and some clear lens glasses, and get a look at the real world.

This country be sold for 30 pieces of silver and our enemies are among us!

But please don’t hurt their FEELINGS!

“It would be inconsistent with the frankness of my character not to avow that I am pleased with your favorable opinion of my Administration, and fervent wishes for my felicity. May the children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other Inhabitants; while every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, and there shall be none to make him afraid. May the father of all mercies scatter light and not darkness in our paths, and make us all in our several vocations useful here, and in his own due time and way everlastingly happy.”

-Pres. George Washington, Letter to the Congregation Kahal Kadosh Yeshuat Israel (Touro Synagogue), Newport, Rhode Island, 1790

Damn. There was a Virginian

“We have abundant reason to rejoice, that in this land the light of truth and reason have triumphed over the power of bigotry and superstition, and that every person may here worship God according to the dictates of his own heart. In this enlightened age and in this land of equal liberty, it is our boast, that a man’s religious tenets will not forfeit the protection of the laws, nor deprive him of the right of attaining and holding the highest offices that are known in the United States.”

–Pres. George Washington to the Members of the New Jerusalem Church of Baltimore (a Swedenborgian congregation), ca. 27 January 1793; The Papers of George Washington, Presidential Series (Charlottesville, UVa Press): 12:52-53.

I wish James! Then he woulda gotten 60%+

Waldo – Alternately, we could convince L.F. Payne to run again.

What makes you think that L.F.’s position is much different? :) I’m a huge L.F. fan too! He was a good congressman!

We could sit here and come up with a list of bad things that have been done by white Christian males over the last 20 years or so – like the Oklahoma City bombing, the 1996 bombing of the Olympics by an anti-abortion activist, the unibomber’s numerous attacks, the guy who the FBI says did the anthrax mailings, etc. However, I will agree that for purposes of, say, airline security screening it unfortunately makes sense to give extra scrutiny to middle-eastern males within that age range.

But really, I don’t see what security profiling has to do with anything here. Security screening was not what Goode was talking about. Rather, Goode was clearly insulting the validity of the entire Muslim faith and appears to be suggesting that Rep. Ellison’s expression of religious faith should not be tolerated in our nation’s capital. He was specifically talking about American citizens – not the terrorists who snuck into America on temporary visas. This isn’t really about terrorism or security. It’s not about airport screening at all. It’s about a bigoted hatred of people who worship God differently than Rep. Goode does on the basis purely of their faith.

Nope, I really don’t see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?

Profiling? Superman? Tom, what in the world are you taking about? Are you even aware of the topic that we’re discussing here, or do you just paste that into discussion forums randomly?

Tom, do you or do you not believe that Rep. Ellison is a terrorist?

I’m all for putting Virgil’s face and attitude on the national GOP. Karl Rove’s dream of attracting Hispanic American voters away from the Democrats–something at which Jeb and George W. Bush were quite adept and quite canny–gets deader every day.

Like the Democratic and Republican parties. The legal (able to vote) hispanic communities are just as split over the issue of illegal immigration. So Goode may lose points for racisim, but not on illegal imigration crackdowns. That’s what I think anyway.

Some Republicans claim (and fear) that we’ll soon be a majority-minority nation due to immigration and the immediate descendants of immigrants.

Great! Then maybe we can finally get rid of affirmitive action. I mean if everyone’s a minority (including white people) then why any need for it? :)

Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test. The events are actual cuts from past history. They actually happened!!!

Do you remember?
1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by
a. Superman
b. Jay Lenno
c. Harry Potter
d. Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by
a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

4. During the 1980’s a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davy Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill’ s women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the Twin Towers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremist s mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

14. In 2004 – Spain Railwayy bombings.
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

15. In 2005 London Railway bombings
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

AND NOW !

16. August 10, 2006 – 21 arrested in terror plot to blow up planes in midair enroute from London to the United States by detonating liquids stored in carry on luggage.

Muslim male extermists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

Nope, I really don’t see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?

I think it’s also worth noting that KFI (including the John and Ken Show) plays to Southern California conservatives, which are mainly of the “fiscal” or “libertarian” bent. So most of the time they just sound like Conservative leaning and rude moderates. And like most stations in large markets- they stream live on the web.

Some Republicans claim (and fear) that we’ll soon be a majority-minority nation due to immigration and the immediate descendants of immigrants. If this is, indeed, inevitable, than their actions — which make clear to these immigrants that Republicans are their enemies — will surely doom them to minority status for decades to come. If it’s not actually inevitable, or even likely, then they’re simply inventing an issue to get their base riled up about.

I figure they’re either dumb or they’re liars.