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		<title>By: Waldo Jaquith</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/why-virgil-goode-switched-parties/#comment-4656</link>
		<dc:creator>Waldo Jaquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 15:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;You&#039;re making Virgil out to be the benefactor of a very complicated political dynamic that involves many ambitious people. That&#039;s…how do you say…conspiratorial? Absurd?&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I&#039;m&lt;/em&gt; not making him out to be &quot;the benefactor of a very complicated political dynamic&quot; -- the many media outlets that I quoted were doing so, based on what they were told by leaders of the Republican Party.  If you disagree with them, go for it, but this isn&#039;t something that I&#039;ve just invented here. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>You&#8217;re making Virgil out to be the benefactor of a very complicated political dynamic that involves many ambitious people. That&#8217;s…how do you say…conspiratorial? Absurd?</em></p>
<p><em>I&#8217;m</em> not making him out to be &#8220;the benefactor of a very complicated political dynamic&#8221; &#8212; the many media outlets that I quoted were doing so, based on what they were told by leaders of the Republican Party.  If you disagree with them, go for it, but this isn&#8217;t something that I&#8217;ve just invented here. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Rawley</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/why-virgil-goode-switched-parties/#comment-4653</link>
		<dc:creator>Rawley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 06:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think of it this way:  The population of Virginia, trending from 1990 to 2000, was more concentrated in the north, and to a lesser degree the east, of the Commonwealth.  An obvious place for a district to expand would be to its north, and to a lesser degree its east.  Hence, Goode gets Albemarle, Greene, and half of Brunswick.  Heck, Boucher got Covington and Collinsville.  (And c&#039;mon, what is the population of Greene County?  6,000?  Don&#039;t make it out to be some electoral prize.)  

You&#039;re making Virgil out to be the benefactor of a very complicated political dynamic that involves many ambitious people.  That&#039;s...how do you say...conspiratorial?  Absurd?

Your sleuthing and tenacity are quite good, and that&#039;s why I read your blog.  I want your assumptions to be more true-to-life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think of it this way:  The population of Virginia, trending from 1990 to 2000, was more concentrated in the north, and to a lesser degree the east, of the Commonwealth.  An obvious place for a district to expand would be to its north, and to a lesser degree its east.  Hence, Goode gets Albemarle, Greene, and half of Brunswick.  Heck, Boucher got Covington and Collinsville.  (And c&#8217;mon, what is the population of Greene County?  6,000?  Don&#8217;t make it out to be some electoral prize.)  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re making Virgil out to be the benefactor of a very complicated political dynamic that involves many ambitious people.  That&#8217;s&#8230;how do you say&#8230;conspiratorial?  Absurd?</p>
<p>Your sleuthing and tenacity are quite good, and that&#8217;s why I read your blog.  I want your assumptions to be more true-to-life.</p>
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		<title>By: Waldo Jaquith</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/why-virgil-goode-switched-parties/#comment-4574</link>
		<dc:creator>Waldo Jaquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;And that you describe Albemarle County as “conservative” makes me wonder what you’d call Halifax County. I suppose it’s a relative term; Albemarle is the second- or third- *least* conservative jurisdiction in the 5th.&lt;/em&gt;

In 2001, Albemarle went for Bush by five points.  But what I had in mind when I wrote that was less in terms of electoral results and more in terms of who has the money.  Albemarle County is home to some of the wealthiest Republicans in the Fifth District.  Expanding the Fifth to include northern Albemarle did wonders for Rep. Goode&#039;s bank account.  Including Greene County -- no money, but lots o&#039; Republicans -- didn&#039;t hurt, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>And that you describe Albemarle County as “conservative” makes me wonder what you’d call Halifax County. I suppose it’s a relative term; Albemarle is the second- or third- *least* conservative jurisdiction in the 5th.</em></p>
<p>In 2001, Albemarle went for Bush by five points.  But what I had in mind when I wrote that was less in terms of electoral results and more in terms of who has the money.  Albemarle County is home to some of the wealthiest Republicans in the Fifth District.  Expanding the Fifth to include northern Albemarle did wonders for Rep. Goode&#8217;s bank account.  Including Greene County &#8212; no money, but lots o&#8217; Republicans &#8212; didn&#8217;t hurt, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Rawley</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/why-virgil-goode-switched-parties/#comment-4573</link>
		<dc:creator>Rawley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for doing the archaeology on this--the VA State Senate experience was quite interesting.  But I think you miss a couple of points.

Virgil doesn&#039;t seek power, per se.  If he did, he wouldn&#039;t escape DC every second he has the chance.  He wouldn&#039;t waste/spend many hours a day personally reading constituent mail.  Virgil does seek re-election, as does any politician with a survival instinct.  A sweet committee assignment or the like is a great way to solidify/reward your base, and thus get re-elected.  Criticizing him for that really sounds like sour grapes.

A major issue that you did touch on was the prospect of running against Boucher, which must have horrified him.  He also must have been concerned that he might not have survived a primary challenge in early 2000.  Had Emily Couric lived and run, she would&#039;ve fared quite well with a Cville Dem base still furious over Virgil&#039;s impeachment vote.  At any rate, the prospect of such a challenge was probably not worth it to him.

You are wrong to say that the 2001 redistricting left his seat &quot;friendlier than ever&quot;.  The main thrust of that redistricting was to make the 4th safe for Randy Forbes, partially at Virgil&#039;s expense (he absorbed half of Brunswick).  And that you describe Albemarle County as &quot;conservative&quot; makes me wonder what you&#039;d call Halifax County.  I suppose it&#039;s a relative term; Albemarle is the second- or third- *least* conservative jurisdiction in the 5th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for doing the archaeology on this&#8211;the VA State Senate experience was quite interesting.  But I think you miss a couple of points.</p>
<p>Virgil doesn&#8217;t seek power, per se.  If he did, he wouldn&#8217;t escape DC every second he has the chance.  He wouldn&#8217;t waste/spend many hours a day personally reading constituent mail.  Virgil does seek re-election, as does any politician with a survival instinct.  A sweet committee assignment or the like is a great way to solidify/reward your base, and thus get re-elected.  Criticizing him for that really sounds like sour grapes.</p>
<p>A major issue that you did touch on was the prospect of running against Boucher, which must have horrified him.  He also must have been concerned that he might not have survived a primary challenge in early 2000.  Had Emily Couric lived and run, she would&#8217;ve fared quite well with a Cville Dem base still furious over Virgil&#8217;s impeachment vote.  At any rate, the prospect of such a challenge was probably not worth it to him.</p>
<p>You are wrong to say that the 2001 redistricting left his seat &#8220;friendlier than ever&#8221;.  The main thrust of that redistricting was to make the 4th safe for Randy Forbes, partially at Virgil&#8217;s expense (he absorbed half of Brunswick).  And that you describe Albemarle County as &#8220;conservative&#8221; makes me wonder what you&#8217;d call Halifax County.  I suppose it&#8217;s a relative term; Albemarle is the second- or third- *least* conservative jurisdiction in the 5th.</p>
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		<title>By: Waldo Jaquith</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/why-virgil-goode-switched-parties/#comment-4562</link>
		<dc:creator>Waldo Jaquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, Conaway -- thanks for that.</description>
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		<title>By: Conaway Haskins</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/why-virgil-goode-switched-parties/#comment-4561</link>
		<dc:creator>Conaway Haskins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waldo - this is a good rundown of the media coverage around Virgil&#039;s switch. I actually was his first Hill intern in his 1996 term, so I saw some of the initial things that were going down. Basically, Virgil was recruited from Day 1 and his relationship with Gephardt &amp; Co was tenuous at best. You have to remember that the mid-90&#039;s takeover of Congress by the Gingrich Revolution caused quite a few conservative Dems to flip, including Sen. Shelby and Rep. Billy Tauzin. It was akin to what happened with some congressional Dems following Reagan&#039;s 1980 victory (Phil Gramm flipped to the GOP). Most flippers got benefits out of it, something that is totally expected in politics - I&#039;d do the same thing. 

The major thing that most of his detractors forget is that - aside from his reputation for integrity - Virgils really, really smart and is a great tactician. Behind that aw-shucks accent lies a Phi Beta Kappa graduate and astute politician. On most issues, he was out of sync with the DNC, but still in sync with some elements of DPVA. Ironically, he supported affirmative action for the most part, both as a personal thing (he saw firsthand segregation from his father&#039;s experience in the Byrd Machine) and his district (the 5th is heavily black). His decision to leave the party in 2000 and go independent caused quite a tiff in the 5th CD committee and several staffers quit. His move full bore into the GOP was protracted (it took 4-5 years), and it was not a quick-change act. He actually considered the effect of his move on the future (and his ability to financially support) of his friends on the Democratic side of the GA, like Roscoe Reynolds.

As for being a turncoat, Virgil was a major supporter of the YD&#039;s and his other Dem colleagues in and around the Commonwealth when he was party member. Still, he caught hell for years for being out of step on issues like tobacco, gun rights and abortion, especially from the Northern Virginians and the Charlottesville crowd. As such, when the time came, he went with where he felt most comfortable - the GOP.

-- Conaway</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waldo &#8211; this is a good rundown of the media coverage around Virgil&#8217;s switch. I actually was his first Hill intern in his 1996 term, so I saw some of the initial things that were going down. Basically, Virgil was recruited from Day 1 and his relationship with Gephardt &amp; Co was tenuous at best. You have to remember that the mid-90&#8217;s takeover of Congress by the Gingrich Revolution caused quite a few conservative Dems to flip, including Sen. Shelby and Rep. Billy Tauzin. It was akin to what happened with some congressional Dems following Reagan&#8217;s 1980 victory (Phil Gramm flipped to the GOP). Most flippers got benefits out of it, something that is totally expected in politics &#8211; I&#8217;d do the same thing. </p>
<p>The major thing that most of his detractors forget is that &#8211; aside from his reputation for integrity &#8211; Virgils really, really smart and is a great tactician. Behind that aw-shucks accent lies a Phi Beta Kappa graduate and astute politician. On most issues, he was out of sync with the DNC, but still in sync with some elements of DPVA. Ironically, he supported affirmative action for the most part, both as a personal thing (he saw firsthand segregation from his father&#8217;s experience in the Byrd Machine) and his district (the 5th is heavily black). His decision to leave the party in 2000 and go independent caused quite a tiff in the 5th CD committee and several staffers quit. His move full bore into the GOP was protracted (it took 4-5 years), and it was not a quick-change act. He actually considered the effect of his move on the future (and his ability to financially support) of his friends on the Democratic side of the GA, like Roscoe Reynolds.</p>
<p>As for being a turncoat, Virgil was a major supporter of the YD&#8217;s and his other Dem colleagues in and around the Commonwealth when he was party member. Still, he caught hell for years for being out of step on issues like tobacco, gun rights and abortion, especially from the Northern Virginians and the Charlottesville crowd. As such, when the time came, he went with where he felt most comfortable &#8211; the GOP.</p>
<p>&#8211; Conaway</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/why-virgil-goode-switched-parties/#comment-4559</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an excellent analysis of Virgil Goode&#039;s party switch and clearly shows him to be a man whose only true motivation is what is best for Virgil Goode. In 1985 Goode delivered the nominating speech for Doug Wilder at the Democratic convention. With his down home accent and old style oratory he whipped the convention into a frenzy as he railed against all things Republican, including a few rather sharp attacks on Miles Goodwin. I am not sure if a copy of that speech exist but it would be interesting to contrast Goode&#039;s convictions then with his convictions now. The comparison would show his core beliefs to be as strong as the prevailing winds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an excellent analysis of Virgil Goode&#8217;s party switch and clearly shows him to be a man whose only true motivation is what is best for Virgil Goode. In 1985 Goode delivered the nominating speech for Doug Wilder at the Democratic convention. With his down home accent and old style oratory he whipped the convention into a frenzy as he railed against all things Republican, including a few rather sharp attacks on Miles Goodwin. I am not sure if a copy of that speech exist but it would be interesting to contrast Goode&#8217;s convictions then with his convictions now. The comparison would show his core beliefs to be as strong as the prevailing winds.</p>
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		<title>By: Waldo Jaquith</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/why-virgil-goode-switched-parties/#comment-4558</link>
		<dc:creator>Waldo Jaquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, it&#039;s well worth saying that I don&#039;t dislike Virgil Goode at all.  In my experience, he&#039;s an affable, well-intentioned guy.  If he has done anything illegal or improper, I would be genuinely surprised, because it would be out of character for him.  He&#039;s not a particularly effective legislator, and he clearly seeks power above all else, but that doesn&#039;t make him bad, but just average.  My interest in him is that he represents me.  If I didn&#039;t live in the 5th, I can&#039;t see that I&#039;d have much to say about him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it&#8217;s well worth saying that I don&#8217;t dislike Virgil Goode at all.  In my experience, he&#8217;s an affable, well-intentioned guy.  If he has done anything illegal or improper, I would be genuinely surprised, because it would be out of character for him.  He&#8217;s not a particularly effective legislator, and he clearly seeks power above all else, but that doesn&#8217;t make him bad, but just average.  My interest in him is that he represents me.  If I didn&#8217;t live in the 5th, I can&#8217;t see that I&#8217;d have much to say about him.</p>
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		<title>By: Lowell</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/why-virgil-goode-switched-parties/#comment-4557</link>
		<dc:creator>Lowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 11:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Waldo, what&#039;s the opposite of a &quot;man crush?&quot;  Whatever it is, I think you&#039;ve got one on Virgil &quot;MZM&quot; Goode.  (Just kidding!!) :)

Seriously, you are doing GREAT work on this; keep it up.  And, if they ever start a Pulitzer Prize for investigative blogging, I hereby nominate you for your series on Goode.  (Not kidding!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Waldo, what&#8217;s the opposite of a &#8220;man crush?&#8221;  Whatever it is, I think you&#8217;ve got one on Virgil &#8220;MZM&#8221; Goode.  (Just kidding!!) :)</p>
<p>Seriously, you are doing GREAT work on this; keep it up.  And, if they ever start a Pulitzer Prize for investigative blogging, I hereby nominate you for your series on Goode.  (Not kidding!!)</p>
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		<title>By: Walt Ball</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/why-virgil-goode-switched-parties/#comment-4555</link>
		<dc:creator>Walt Ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad Virgil is your Congressman Waldo. I might have to deal with Tim Kaine for the next four years. But you Waldo, lest you decide to leave Charlottesville, will have Virgil till they plant him in that Franklin County soil! Was it a cruel trick that was played on Charlottesville? yes. Does it make me laugh? yes.

Good article though. I had forgotten about much of what you dug up. Our congressional district chairman enjoys the perception that he deserves the credit for bringing Virgil into the party (which I think is bunk) The approps. seat was a big deal to him, I can have no doubt Waldo, but Virgil&#039;s leaving the Democratic party was more than smooth deals in smoke filled rooms. It was the combination of events that formed the perfect storm. Boucher? maybe to sure. Democratic party becoming more and more liberal in VA? definately a reason. approps seat? sure, ok. lots of reasons out there Waldo. None of them demonic. taking an appops seat for the betterment of his district is good politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad Virgil is your Congressman Waldo. I might have to deal with Tim Kaine for the next four years. But you Waldo, lest you decide to leave Charlottesville, will have Virgil till they plant him in that Franklin County soil! Was it a cruel trick that was played on Charlottesville? yes. Does it make me laugh? yes.</p>
<p>Good article though. I had forgotten about much of what you dug up. Our congressional district chairman enjoys the perception that he deserves the credit for bringing Virgil into the party (which I think is bunk) The approps. seat was a big deal to him, I can have no doubt Waldo, but Virgil&#8217;s leaving the Democratic party was more than smooth deals in smoke filled rooms. It was the combination of events that formed the perfect storm. Boucher? maybe to sure. Democratic party becoming more and more liberal in VA? definately a reason. approps seat? sure, ok. lots of reasons out there Waldo. None of them demonic. taking an appops seat for the betterment of his district is good politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans Mast</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/why-virgil-goode-switched-parties/#comment-4554</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans Mast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you said, he has always been ideologically conservative. There was no reason for him not to switch. He was just smart about switching and made sure that he got some benefits from a switch that was a natural anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you said, he has always been ideologically conservative. There was no reason for him not to switch. He was just smart about switching and made sure that he got some benefits from a switch that was a natural anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: James W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>James W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 20:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Great work Waldo.</description>
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