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		<title>By: Thomas Jefferson</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/poison-democratic/#comment-4243</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Jefferson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I.Publius &amp; Shaun,

I assume you guys think that the recent increase in the use of the term &quot;democrat party&quot; is explainable as a sudden attack of republican absent mindedness.  On the contrary, as Dan pointed out three days ago, the decision to start using that term was a deliberate decision on which money was spent.  Read George Orwell&#039;s Politics and the English Language and you&#039;ll see how subtle word choices can have major influences on how people think.  The term &quot;democratic&quot; represents ideals in which all americans supposedly believe.  &quot;Democrat&quot; is a term which, at least in the minds of some, is linked with anal sex, flag burning, baby killing, and lots of other bad things.  I assure you these sorts of subtleties are not lost on the Rovians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I.Publius &amp; Shaun,</p>
<p>I assume you guys think that the recent increase in the use of the term &#8220;democrat party&#8221; is explainable as a sudden attack of republican absent mindedness.  On the contrary, as Dan pointed out three days ago, the decision to start using that term was a deliberate decision on which money was spent.  Read George Orwell&#8217;s Politics and the English Language and you&#8217;ll see how subtle word choices can have major influences on how people think.  The term &#8220;democratic&#8221; represents ideals in which all americans supposedly believe.  &#8220;Democrat&#8221; is a term which, at least in the minds of some, is linked with anal sex, flag burning, baby killing, and lots of other bad things.  I assure you these sorts of subtleties are not lost on the Rovians.</p>
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		<title>By: eileen</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/poison-democratic/#comment-4242</link>
		<dc:creator>eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the history/signifigance behind newspapers with the word &quot;Democrat&quot; in them.  Like the &quot;Fauquier Times-Democrat&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the history/signifigance behind newspapers with the word &#8220;Democrat&#8221; in them.  Like the &#8220;Fauquier Times-Democrat&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: James W.</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/poison-democratic/#comment-4232</link>
		<dc:creator>James W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 06:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles Reichley, a Potomac News columnist, does this gratuitously.  It&#039;sown o almost as is if he&#039;s trying to come up with new reasons to write &quot;Democrat Party.&quot;  I can picture him hunched over his keyboard cackling at his own brilliant wit.  It&#039;s pretty pathetic actually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles Reichley, a Potomac News columnist, does this gratuitously.  It&#8217;sown o almost as is if he&#8217;s trying to come up with new reasons to write &#8220;Democrat Party.&#8221;  I can picture him hunched over his keyboard cackling at his own brilliant wit.  It&#8217;s pretty pathetic actually.</p>
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		<title>By: Agitator</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/poison-democratic/#comment-4229</link>
		<dc:creator>Agitator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 05:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nova, you simply don&#039;t understand.... this is a conspiracy at the highest levels to slander, demean and belittle the Democrat Party (I got the memo)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nova, you simply don&#8217;t understand&#8230;. this is a conspiracy at the highest levels to slander, demean and belittle the Democrat Party (I got the memo)</p>
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		<title>By: NoVA Scout</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/poison-democratic/#comment-4228</link>
		<dc:creator>NoVA Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 04:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to confess that I probably have referred to you guys as part of the &quot;Democrat Party&quot; (although I probably more often refer to members of that party as &quot;Democrats.&quot;).  Having gotten that load of guilt off my chest, I have to tell you that it never was an intentional slight, it just reflects a lack of awareness about your sensitivities on the point.  So I side with JD and others who suggest you&#039;re reading too much into that particular point.  

As a Republican, I&#039;m very relieved at the Black and Craddock losses.  I&#039;m not in either of their districts, but they present too big a target for you folks.  We&#039;ll do a lot better without them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to confess that I probably have referred to you guys as part of the &#8220;Democrat Party&#8221; (although I probably more often refer to members of that party as &#8220;Democrats.&#8221;).  Having gotten that load of guilt off my chest, I have to tell you that it never was an intentional slight, it just reflects a lack of awareness about your sensitivities on the point.  So I side with JD and others who suggest you&#8217;re reading too much into that particular point.  </p>
<p>As a Republican, I&#8217;m very relieved at the Black and Craddock losses.  I&#8217;m not in either of their districts, but they present too big a target for you folks.  We&#8217;ll do a lot better without them.</p>
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		<title>By: I.Publius</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/poison-democratic/#comment-4227</link>
		<dc:creator>I.Publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 04:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Shaun, I&#039;m quite sure that he&#039;s not kidding.  He undoubtedly believes that.  Sad, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Shaun, I&#8217;m quite sure that he&#8217;s not kidding.  He undoubtedly believes that.  Sad, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Kenney</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/poison-democratic/#comment-4222</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun Kenney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 00:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;As a follow up to Waldo’s point, the use of all those terms on daily kos are obviously meant to be jokes. On the other hand, the use of the term “democrat party” is meant to be taken seriously, the thinking being that tweaking the name will have some subconscious effect on people who hear it over and over. &lt;/i&gt;

You gotta be kidding me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As a follow up to Waldo’s point, the use of all those terms on daily kos are obviously meant to be jokes. On the other hand, the use of the term “democrat party” is meant to be taken seriously, the thinking being that tweaking the name will have some subconscious effect on people who hear it over and over. </i></p>
<p>You gotta be kidding me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Israel</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/poison-democratic/#comment-4221</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come Waldo, a heterosexual married man, gets a copy of the homosexual agenda and _I_ don&#039;t?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come Waldo, a heterosexual married man, gets a copy of the homosexual agenda and _I_ don&#8217;t?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Jefferson</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/poison-democratic/#comment-4208</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Jefferson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 18:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a follow up to Waldo&#039;s point, the use of all those terms on daily kos are obviously meant to be jokes.  On the other hand, the use of the term &quot;democrat party&quot; is meant to be taken seriously, the thinking being that tweaking the name will have some subconscious effect on people who hear it over and over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a follow up to Waldo&#8217;s point, the use of all those terms on daily kos are obviously meant to be jokes.  On the other hand, the use of the term &#8220;democrat party&#8221; is meant to be taken seriously, the thinking being that tweaking the name will have some subconscious effect on people who hear it over and over.</p>
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		<title>By: Waldo Jaquith</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/poison-democratic/#comment-4206</link>
		<dc:creator>Waldo Jaquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I take it you’re not a big fan of DailyKos, where terms like &quot;Rethuglicans,&quot; &quot;ReThugs,&quot; &quot;Repugs,&quot; etc. are used constantly. Along with constant use of the &quot;F&quot; bomb and other profanity. What do you make of this phenomenon?&lt;/em&gt;

I do like Daily Kos,but I don&#039;t like that aspect of it.  On the one hand, I know that the site is written for and read by the faithful, so there&#039;s less danger of offending anybody.  On the other hand, it establishes a norm of disrespect that I&#039;m not a big fan of.  As I&#039;ve said, though, I go back and forth.  If I believe that President Bush deliberately started a war based on lies, killing thousands of civilians and Americans, then why waste time being polite?

Foul language isn&#039;t a problem for me, so long as it enhances what&#039;s being said.  I find that constant use if it only serves to diminish the impact of those words, though.  Which is unfortunate, because then when you really do want to make clear that you&#039;re really serious or excited about something, you&#039;ve used up all of the words that we use to indicate that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I take it you’re not a big fan of DailyKos, where terms like &#8220;Rethuglicans,&#8221; &#8220;ReThugs,&#8221; &#8220;Repugs,&#8221; etc. are used constantly. Along with constant use of the &#8220;F&#8221; bomb and other profanity. What do you make of this phenomenon?</em></p>
<p>I do like Daily Kos,but I don&#8217;t like that aspect of it.  On the one hand, I know that the site is written for and read by the faithful, so there&#8217;s less danger of offending anybody.  On the other hand, it establishes a norm of disrespect that I&#8217;m not a big fan of.  As I&#8217;ve said, though, I go back and forth.  If I believe that President Bush deliberately started a war based on lies, killing thousands of civilians and Americans, then why waste time being polite?</p>
<p>Foul language isn&#8217;t a problem for me, so long as it enhances what&#8217;s being said.  I find that constant use if it only serves to diminish the impact of those words, though.  Which is unfortunate, because then when you really do want to make clear that you&#8217;re really serious or excited about something, you&#8217;ve used up all of the words that we use to indicate that.</p>
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		<title>By: ShortPumpShorty</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/poison-democratic/#comment-4202</link>
		<dc:creator>ShortPumpShorty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Touchy, touchy, touchy.   I&#039;ve heard of sore losers, but sore winners?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Touchy, touchy, touchy.   I&#8217;ve heard of sore losers, but sore winners?</p>
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		<title>By: ATA</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/poison-democratic/#comment-4201</link>
		<dc:creator>ATA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lowell,

The difference is that in the case of the Republican party, they deliberately use the incorrect terminology pretty much 100% of the time in statements at the most senior level. You hear it from Ken Mehlman, Bill Frist and all the rest of them. I expect that kind of rudeness from the plebes on either side. But not from leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lowell,</p>
<p>The difference is that in the case of the Republican party, they deliberately use the incorrect terminology pretty much 100% of the time in statements at the most senior level. You hear it from Ken Mehlman, Bill Frist and all the rest of them. I expect that kind of rudeness from the plebes on either side. But not from leadership.</p>
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		<title>By: Duke</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/poison-democratic/#comment-4198</link>
		<dc:creator>Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 14:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, I don&#039;t even care about the grammar or the syntax. Good manners just says that you refer to a person or group according to their reasonable wishes. If I meet John Smith, who asks that I call him &quot;Mr. Smith&quot;, that&#039;s what I call him. If he asks that I him &quot;Jack&quot;, that&#039;s what I call him. If he asks that I call him &quot;Scooter&quot;, so be it.

Similarly, for groups, if my fellow citizens of African descent, ask to be referred to as &quot;African Americans&quot;, why shouldn&#039;t I comply with that reasonable desire? If they don&#039;t want to be called &quot;Negroes&quot;, why would I insult them by using that reference?

There are so many legitimate areas of disagreement as to how we ought to be governed, these insults of appellation are juvenile and reflect bad manners on the part of the speaker. Dick Black learned what his constituents thought about loutish behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, I don&#8217;t even care about the grammar or the syntax. Good manners just says that you refer to a person or group according to their reasonable wishes. If I meet John Smith, who asks that I call him &#8220;Mr. Smith&#8221;, that&#8217;s what I call him. If he asks that I him &#8220;Jack&#8221;, that&#8217;s what I call him. If he asks that I call him &#8220;Scooter&#8221;, so be it.</p>
<p>Similarly, for groups, if my fellow citizens of African descent, ask to be referred to as &#8220;African Americans&#8221;, why shouldn&#8217;t I comply with that reasonable desire? If they don&#8217;t want to be called &#8220;Negroes&#8221;, why would I insult them by using that reference?</p>
<p>There are so many legitimate areas of disagreement as to how we ought to be governed, these insults of appellation are juvenile and reflect bad manners on the part of the speaker. Dick Black learned what his constituents thought about loutish behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/poison-democratic/#comment-4197</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 13:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Republicans are plural. Republican is singular.
Democrats are plural. Democrat is singular.

Republican Party.
Democrat Party.

Now it may not be correct, but I don’t see how the faux pax is somehow demeaning… &lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s demeaning because it&#039;s a deliberate mispronounciation of the party&#039;s name. Your pedestrian example of &quot;Republican Party. Democrat Party.&quot; demands I either start calling people from France &quot;Franciards&quot; or people from Spain &quot;Spench&quot;.

Or, maybe, just because certain syntax works for one group, it doesn&#039;t necessarily mean it works for the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Republicans are plural. Republican is singular.<br />
Democrats are plural. Democrat is singular.</p>
<p>Republican Party.<br />
Democrat Party.</p>
<p>Now it may not be correct, but I don’t see how the faux pax is somehow demeaning… </i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s demeaning because it&#8217;s a deliberate mispronounciation of the party&#8217;s name. Your pedestrian example of &#8220;Republican Party. Democrat Party.&#8221; demands I either start calling people from France &#8220;Franciards&#8221; or people from Spain &#8220;Spench&#8221;.</p>
<p>Or, maybe, just because certain syntax works for one group, it doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean it works for the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Lowell</title>
		<link>http://waldo.jaquith.org/blog/2005/11/poison-democratic/#comment-4194</link>
		<dc:creator>Lowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 11:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take it you&#039;re not a big fan of DailyKos, where terms like &quot;Rethuglicans,&quot; &quot;ReThugs,&quot; &quot;Repugs,&quot; etc. are used constantly. Along with constant use of the &quot;F&quot; bomb and other profanity.  What do you make of this phenomenon?  There&#039;s a big discussion going on at DKos on this subject (use of profanity) right now. I generallly find it a sign of bad writing and lazy thinking, yet some of the most popular writers on DKos use the &quot;F&quot; word constantly.  Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take it you&#8217;re not a big fan of DailyKos, where terms like &#8220;Rethuglicans,&#8221; &#8220;ReThugs,&#8221; &#8220;Repugs,&#8221; etc. are used constantly. Along with constant use of the &#8220;F&#8221; bomb and other profanity.  What do you make of this phenomenon?  There&#8217;s a big discussion going on at DKos on this subject (use of profanity) right now. I generallly find it a sign of bad writing and lazy thinking, yet some of the most popular writers on DKos use the &#8220;F&#8221; word constantly.  Thoughts?</p>
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